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   [Date]: Tue, 21 Dec 1999 14:02:42 +0800
   [From]: p w toy <toy1234@iinet.net.au>
     [To]: Cultural Exchange via Internet <forum1@herz.kbx.de>
[Subject]: Re: [forum1] Re: Charlie Brown and Mafalda are back

> I would be interested to ask
> > how St.John's
> > poetry might fit our present global crisis?????
>
Juan,

To refine the question, I make the following statement;

As I understand the present Global Crisis, it being a problem of over pop=
ulation of our planet, or rather, this
being the cause and our failure to deal with this because our world leade=
rs have not progressed beyond the
philosophies of Materialism and Militarism.

If we accept this as real, my question is:  How does Art move us beyond t=
hese fatal philosopies of Materialism and
Militarism.
St, John seems to admonish a closer contact with God through Art and that=
 our pursuit of pleasure should be thus
directed.

It is interesting to me after 2000 years of the Christian era, that we re=
turn to this time to ask - what is the
purpose of pleasure.
I understand that this may be difficult for those who do not believe in G=
od. But why has Christianity down played
pleasure and promoted guilt which over the 2000 years has contributed to =
many problems, and perhaps even resulted
in the culture of Materialism and Militarism which we experience today as=
 a global culture.

Peter

PS. I don't know why I am posting this as  "Charlie Brown and Mafalda are=
 back".  But  I would be interested to
hear from others on the problem outlined above.


Juan JosŽ D’az Infante wrote:

> Peter
>
> >
> > I know nothing of the Carmelites or the poetry of Saint John of the C=
ross.
> >From what you say and what you seem to know of the
> > carmelite order I would be interested to ask
> > how St.John's
> > poetry might fit our present global crisis?????
>
> I do not seem to understand,
>
> What do you mean by present global crisis?
>
> values? money? quality of life?war? materialism?
> would you make your question clearer