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   [Date]: Wed, 15 Dec 1999 17:09:58 +0900
   [From]: t o m v i n c e n t <tomv@crisscross.com>
     [To]: Cultural Exchange via Internet <forum1@herz.kbx.de>
[Subject]: Re: [forum1] Re: Pre- Saint John/ Saint Bill

Juan, Dianne, all

There's so much that I want to reply to Juan, and Dianne, but I too have too
much work to do just now to give it enough time.

For the time being one quick word of thanks to Juan for reminding me of
duende. As you know, I think, I live in Tokyo. My 'live' links with the
Spanish cultures are limited to this list. I had forgotten duende, and Lorca
for that matter. A nice gift for today.

(btw though, I agree with Dianne that 'oriental' and 'asian' are
out-of-date, Eurocentric terms -particularly oriental. This is a language
problem, though, and I admit I do not really know the accepted usage of
Spanish, Hispanic, Latin, etc. We must teach and assist one another with
these things.)

And to Dianne (and Juan) - yes, I agree there is a danger of seeming to
pontificate. That is certainly what happens when you simply regurgitate
fixed opinions. But isn't it also a risk you take when you try to delve into
things a little deeper than you are confident you can safely reach, and try
to find something new? For myself, I admit I enjoy intellectualising, within
the meagre limits of my brainpower. But I am also very aware that
unfortunately sometimes - often even - in the struggle to find a useful path
the conversation can appear pompous, and also can become self-serving and
spiral in on itself. As long as we always remain open to the possibility
(probablility?) that our opinions are wrong, and that the conversation is
only a means of advancing rather than any kind of creed or manifesto, then
I'm not sure that it matters very much.

By the way, Dianne, you very kindly credit me with quotes that are not mine
(at least I don't think they are :-))- there is a lot of heavy traffic on
this list, it's difficult to keep track. But I would second them, and your
addition - your 'faith or hope' are perhaps what I meant by the 'in-your-gut
thing'. I'm not really sure there _is_ any true understanding anywhere -
especially regarding this slippery thing we call 'art'. Perhaps we can only
'do', and then 'do' some more - all the while attempting to keep our eyes
open to what we are not expecting to find, and struggling in the direction
that appears to be leading towards satori. That is why I responded to Juan's
mail. Struggle. After all, this kind of conversation is 'doing' too.

:-)

Tom



--- Original Message ---
From: Dianne d'Alpoim Guedes <guedes@thehub.com.au>
Date: Wed, 15 Dec 1999 15:36
Subject: [forum1] Re: Pre- Saint John/ Saint Bill




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