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   [Date]: Mon, 13 Dec 1999 18:07:11 +1100
   [From]: "Dianne d'Alpoim Guedes" <guedes@thehub.com.au>
     [To]: Cultural Exchange via Internet <forum1@hkw.kbx.de>
[Subject]: Re: [forum1] Act of art rather than work of art

Dear Francois

Thank you for your "intervention". It is so obvious that as an artist you
understand these complex
processes.
The development you imply(see below) in  "craftsman > artist
                                                                intellectual
> philosopher
                                                                monk >
mystic ".............. seems rather too logical though.
Perhaps we are all capable of this development in our own ways? Rituals are
available in many cultural contexts in many different systems. i.E.
N,American Indian, Aboriginal, etc. ( If ritual is what you mean by the
constant practise or 'work 'of art). However, the practise of ' the ritual'
or 'the work' seems to be no guarantee of such development or insight for
the individual, or does it?  Sorry,  I have no answers, only more questions.
There was an interesting exhibition, "THE SPIRITUAL IN ART/ABSTRACT
PAINTING" at Los Angeles County Museum/ Chicago Museum of Contemp. Art/
Haags Gemeentemuseum in the Hague, in 1987. The catalog is published by
Abbeville Press, Paris, and explores this issue very thoroughly. You may be
able to find it.
A fellow traveller and artist.



 This
> parallel between the mystic and the artist puts the artist's "act of
> art" in close relationship with the mystics "ecstasy", and with the
> scientist "speculation", all in my opinion devoted to what you call
> going "beyond the game of the lie", and what I call attempting to
> understand the un-understandable. I would only tend to change it a
> little bit this way: "When a craftsman, an intellectual, or a monk goes
> beyond the game of lies, they become respectively, artists,
> philosophers, or mystics."
>
> Again, I would be pleased if anyone wanted to help me go further in
> these directions.
>
> Francois Davin, (french, male, 3D artist, only on-site, mostly in
> nature)