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   [Date]: Fri, 10 Dec 1999 12:43:09 +1100
   [From]: "Dianne d'Alpoim Guedes" <guedes@thehub.com.au>
     [To]: Cultural Exchange via Internet <forum1@hkw.kbx.de>
[Subject]: Re: the art of (limited electronic) conversation

Hello Forum (and Juan in particular)

Firstly : Juan,in response to your comment 8/12 regarding the internet; "In
essence there is no difference to talking or meeting someone
personally.......what is important is the result".
 The differences are many and if you know of studies done in the US as long
ago as the early 70's, you will know that non-verbal communication provides
an huge additional component of information to any verbal message. Much of
that non-verbal information is culturally encoded....so I would have thought
it would be of great interest to you. The "result" of course...is what you
make of the information you get.

Secondly : from your most recent message 19/12 (see attached) regarding ;
"Art as a myth kept un-understandable"....
It must remain that to be art. It is essential for art to be mysterious.
Only then is it fascinating/compelling and not just entertaining

 And I agree completely with the last part : "When an artist or intellectual
grows beyond the game of the lie they become mystics." Do you know the work
of Stanislas Klossowski de Rola,'The Golden Game'? He is the son of the
painter Balthus. Both seem to be interested in "the game of the lie". Games
and lies are ways of manipulating 'reality' that artists need to find paths
beyond..for example, beyond the old Euro-centric surrealist games you
mention. Duchamp and his disciples have had their 'five memorable minutes'
don't you think?.
de Rola's long years in Sri Lanka and his explorations of the 'game of
alchemy' may provide more fruitful paths for artists of today.

As for "cruxifixion is their reward"........that depends on where and how
they play their games.
('Passing GO to collect 200' may not be enough for some of us.I wish you
could see the playful, non-verbal smile attached to that.)

DG




---- Original Message ----
>From: "Juan JosŽ D’az Infante" <jdiazinfante@altamiracave.com>
>Subject: [forum1] The dislexic society and the art of conversation
>Date: Thu, Dec 9, 1999, 8:35 AM